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Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon wattsie » 01 Mär 2012, 12:12

Does anyone know how I can get my hands on English versions or translations of the Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher? I have a couple from the early 70s which are in English but would particularly like translations of the Hobby 3 and Hobby 4 volumes.

Apologies for the arrogant assumption that people will read English, but after 20+ years my school boy German is not that great!

Jason
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Schwabe » 16 Okt 2012, 02:55

Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but here:
http://www.fischertechnik-museum.ch/mus ... =79&page=2
they do have some downloads (i.e. hobby3_1 & hobby4_1) that are multilingual.
http://www.fischertechnik-museum.ch/mus ... =79&pos=51
http://www.fischertechnik-museum.ch/doc ... _30623.pdf
I do not know so if these are the set instructions and there were additional, more detailed books - or if it's all the same.
Under some of those images, there seems nothing to download, but many "have" a pdf to download...
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Codex » 06 Jul 2017, 04:42

Hi,

I am also looking for English Version of these documents.

I have originals printed hobby experiments and models, hobby 4 volume 1 and hobby 4 volume 2, both are in in English.

Does anyone know where I can download the English PDF versions of the Hobby Experimente & Modelle Buchers?

English version are called "fischertechnik hobby experiments and models"


Thanks
Michael
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Burkhard » 01 Aug 2017, 23:30

Hello Michael,

As Schwabe mentions, the basic set „instructions“ were published in a multi-lingual format, but as far as I know, the „Experimente+Modelle“ books that you seek were never published in English.

Consider it a good exercise in learning German :-)

It is a bit of a pity that this was never so. Having studied it in school, I can read German relatively well (and enjoy it immensely), but my children cannot.
While the new Profi sets are nice, they are at a much lower technical level than these old Hobby books. I wind up translating myself experiments for the kids to do.

regards,
Burkhard
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Marspau » 02 Aug 2017, 18:41

@Burkhard,

[quote][/quote]While the new Profi sets are nice, they are at a much lower technical level than these old Hobby books.


I agree on that point

Best Regards

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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Burkhard » 03 Aug 2017, 18:11

Michael,

Whoops, I think when I answered, I missed that you said you actually have *English* copies of a couple of the thick „Experimente+Modelle Bücher“.
I must have been answering Jason's question, but then tacked your name on, rather than his...

I didn't realize those existed... would love to get at least PDFs myself.
Can you take a snapshot of one of the covers?

Longer term, it would be wonderful if we could get scans of those up, either at ft-Datenbank or the wonderful library the Dutch club has at http://docs.fischertechnikclub.nl/inhoud.htm

I have myself paper copies of the official fischertechnik English/French/Dutch translations of the manuals for 1980s Elektronik (30253) and Pneumatik (30863) sets.
For those markets, these sets came with an extra booklet that page-by-page gives text translation of the main booklet. I haven't seen these as PDFs either.
Actually, I partially take that back... The Dutch site does have the Dutch pages of the multi-lingual translations, but not the English or French.
Here's an example of what I mean: http://docs.fischertechnikclub.nl/pneumatik/39187a.pdf

best regards,
Burkhard
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Codex » 01 Dez 2017, 02:47

Hi Burkhard,

I have some of those black and white translations booklets too, they are no fun to read, no pictures.

Experimente+Modelle“ books that you seek were never published in English

At least the two that I have were published in English. I will provide a picture of the front covers. The English is not very good. Often the component names are a direct translation of the German name and not the common English technical name for the component that an English Engineer would use. As an Engineer I actually found the English a little confusing. As I was reading them I was translating the bad English to the type of English used for technical descriptions. They are a poor example for an English speaker wanting to learn engineering. I suspect the German ones are not like this at all.

I thought I read on their website that, docs.fischertechnikclub.nl don't accept other people pdfs anymore, they want you send in the original manual.

Consider it a good exercise in learning German :-)

Haha, yes, I have been seriously considering doing that and I would if I had someone with whom I could practice with. I can read some of the words, as I had a German father, grandparents and German lessons as child.
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon emumanu » 21 Feb 2019, 00:37

Hello guys,

I can confirm that there are transalted english versions of the fischertechnik hobby experiments and models books. I have seen the following on ebay:

- hobby 1 vol 1
- hobby 1 vol 3
- hobby 2 vol 1
- hobby 4 vol 1
- hobby 4 vol 2

I'm not sure if more exist. I have hobby 1 vol 1 in english, that I scanned and upload it here:

http://h2495586.stratoserver.net/ft/hobby1-1.pdf

As Codex says, the translation is not very good, but for people like me without any german knowledge, they're priceless.

If you can send me scanned versions of what you have in english, I can set up a web page with all that we have so maybe more people can contribute with other stuff.
If you can't scan them I offer to scan them. Send me a private message for my contact details.

Burkhard, the translated 1980s Elektronik (30253) would be cool. I think I have the Pneumatik translation somewhere. In a couple of weeks, I'll search for it and I will try to scan it.

Best regards,
Manu
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Sweany » 23 Feb 2019, 01:05

Hi all

I can make the English versions available in the Dutch Library.
They were left out because of the lack of interest, that is why there are only German and Dutch versions.

It takes a huge amount of time to scan them and rework them to PDF, but if it is wanted i can start to put them online.
The 2019 update is late this year, but will start in March.

When there are special request i can look into that, main problem can be that i do not have the books that is asked for.
If anyone wants something online i can scan them, but you have to send them to me, after scanning i always send the documents back.
If you want to scan you're self take a look at the conditions in the library, that prevents disappointment due to rejection of the documentation.

Lets share our documents so everybody can use them.

Grts Marchel
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon emumanu » 23 Feb 2019, 17:35

Hello Marchel,

I don't think there is no interest in the english version, quite the opposite. However, most of the fischertechnik places are german only and difficult to navigate for non german speakers (it was difficult for me to register in this forum as there was a question in the registration process with some german words in it).

I think the Dutch library is an excellent place to put the english versions.

AFAIK, the documents with most technical knowledge are the hobby "experiments and models" books, the pneumatic book and the hobbylabor book, so we should start from there. Which ones do you have in english?

I have seen the conditions for the library scans. I have to say that your scans are quite good, with very white backgrounds and perfecly aligned pages. It shows a lot of love on your part. Unfortunately, the hobby 1 vol 1 book I've uploaded does not meet those strict conditions. I will rescan it with better resolution and perform some cleaning and alignment to save you time to do other stuff. However, it will take some time.

I have found my pneumetik set (30863). As I bought it used, it has some hand writting in some pages of the english translation, so probably it will be better to scan a clean one if somebody has it available.

BR,
Manu
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon Sweany » 23 Feb 2019, 21:55

Thanks you for you're answer

emumanu hat geschrieben:AFAIK, the documents with most technical knowledge are the hobby "experiments and models" books, the pneumatic book and the hobbylabor book, so we should start from there. Which ones do you have in english?


For the Pneumatik/ Pneumatik+/ Elektromechanik & Elektronik i have them in different versions.
Also a few old computing books, for others i have to search my bookshelf's but that is about 4m of paper.
The hobbylabor takes about 10hr of scanning and 2 days of reworking only i do not have the English version.
I know that 1 of our members has a lot of them in English also clubhefte maybe i can borrow them and start later this year scanning them.

If you want to know more about scanning i did have worn out 2 on this moment(about 15000 pages with every scanner) and now starting with number 3 and ad the end of 2018 i did get a A3 scanner for oversized A4 documents.

Grts Marchel
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Re: Hobby Experimente & Modelle Bucher - Englisch

Beitragvon emumanu » 23 Feb 2019, 23:33

Sweany hat geschrieben:For the Pneumatik/ Pneumatik+/ Elektromechanik & Elektronik i have them in different versions.
Also a few old computing books, for others i have to search my bookshelf's but that is about 4m of paper.
The hobbylabor takes about 10hr of scanning and 2 days of reworking only i do not have the English version.
I know that 1 of our members has a lot of them in English also clubhefte maybe i can borrow them and start later this year scanning them.


Sounds great. Thank you very much!

Sweany hat geschrieben:If you want to know more about scanning i did have worn out 2 on this moment(about 15000 pages with every scanner) and now starting with number 3 and ad the end of 2018 i did get a A3 scanner for oversized A4 documents.


Wow!
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